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What's your favorite film by Buster Keaton?

One Week
1 (3.3%)
Convict 13
0 (0%)
The Scarecrow
0 (0%)
Neighbors
0 (0%)
The Goat
0 (0%)
The Play House
0 (0%)
The Boat
0 (0%)
The Paleface
0 (0%)
Cops
0 (0%)
The Blacksmith
0 (0%)
The Balloonatic
0 (0%)
Three Ages
0 (0%)
Our Hospitality
0 (0%)
Sherlock Jr.
6 (20%)
The Navigator
0 (0%)
Seven Chances
0 (0%)
Go West
1 (3.3%)
Battling Butler
0 (0%)
The General
12 (40%)
Steamboat Bill, Jr.
1 (3.3%)
The Cameraman
5 (16.7%)
other (please specify)
0 (0%)
haven't seen any
4 (13.3%)
don't like any
0 (0%)

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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2010, 10:57:06 AM »
Sadly I haven't seen any, but most of the films on here are on my queue.

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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2010, 01:01:14 PM »
The General

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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 05:49:21 PM »
The Cameraman
The General


Cops    
Sherlock Jr.
The Play House
Seven Chances
Steamboat Bill, Jr.
One Week

   
Battling Butler
The Navigator
Go West
Our Hospitality
Three Ages
The Balloonatic 
The Scarecrow    
Neighbors    
The Goat    
The Boat    
The Paleface    
The Blacksmith
Convict 13

   
May Louis B. Mayer & Irving Thalberg roast in Hell for what they did to this genius.
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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 11:49:43 AM »
One Week Buster Keaton + Edward F. Cline, 1920

Probably some weirdo metaphor about the imperfectness of marriage and love. The first big project that the newlyweds encounter ends up in disaster as the house they build turns out all weird and strange. But Keaton's a pragmatist, he makes do. Whatever kinda strange nonsense the world throws at him, he simply accepts and reacts accordingly (often using his splendid agility and athleticism). The whole thing's a marvel of construction: you wonder how they pulled those things off, the logistics of it, sure, but also get suckered in by its plot dynamics and reversals (the ending is just hilarious). Pretty much perfect.

The 'High Sign' Buster Keaton + Edward F. Cline, 1921

Lots of really good elements and bits. Keaton becomes a member of random band of thugs and is tasked to kill some random dude. He also then unwittingly becomes that same dude's bodyguard. The best early bit is the contraption that Keaton builds to prove that he's a good shot. That's fine. But the real meat of the film and what makes it hilarious is the dollhouse finish, which is all of The Ladies Man and Tout va Bien right there, where Keaton jumps in and out of every room, evading the baddies and getting the girl. That shit's marvelous. The rest can't live up to it.

The Playhouse Buster Keaton + Edward F. Cline, 1921

The film's justifiably famous opening sequence where Keaton plays all the character is pretty impressive, but it kinda overstays its welcome, amusing though it is. Much more hilarious and impressive is the sequence where Keaton plays a monkey and has the posture and the way of walking totally down. But, largely, this was kinda underwhelming.

Also rewatched a couple of other shorts, The Goat and Cops. I didn't change my mind about them so here are the old reviews.

Cops (Buster Keaton + Edward F. Cline, 1922)

Buster loses the girl and then tries hard to win her back. Somehow this ends up in Buster stealing wallets, stealing people's furniture, becoming a terrorist, etc - it's hilarious. I'm really in love with Keaton's athleticism; there's this one part that shows this weird double cross/dribble (I fail at knowing soccer terminology. . . in English. . . although I've probably forgotten the Spanish ones, too) that hints at a soccer picture that never was. And he runs and runs and runs. Somehow always at the right place. Not only does he fool them, he does it with style. How else can you account for that out of nowhere umbrella? or his costume at the end? Doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense. Who cares how it happens, it happens! And it's so damn funny because of it.

The Goat (Buster Keaton + Malcolm St. Clair, 1921)

Buster plays the everyman who happens to be mistaken for some kind of escaped killer. Hilarity ensues. Buster just goes around running from people and slipping in and out of situations/roles so easily. It's like a second talent. It's all done so fluidly in a way that's totally ridiculous and fantastic. There's lots of great gags (one including Buster bringing a horse down on its knees) but the best has to be one with the elevator in which for a second you believe that Buster sent a man 7 stories down. It's hilarious.
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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 02:07:09 PM »
I'm really in love with Keaton's athleticism; there's this one part that shows this weird double cross/dribble (I fail at knowing soccer terminology. . . in English. . . although I've probably forgotten the Spanish ones, too) that hints at a soccer picture that never was.

When it comes to his athleticism, nothing beats the scene where he grabs onto the back of the moving car. Any normal human being would dislocate their shoulder.

As a side note, years ago I was watching At the Movies during Michael Medved's turn, and he had the utter stupidity to say that Roberto Benigni was the greatest physical comedian of all time. What a schmuck!
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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2011, 02:29:42 PM »
Great write-ups, rouj. I'd love to see all of those.
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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2011, 06:27:16 AM »

In May of 1928, Buster Keaton released Steamboat Bill, Jr, one of his greatest films, with perhaps his most elaborate and memorable stunt work, featuring the facade of a house falling on top of him in the midst of a hurricane, a small window clearing his body with inches to spare, the difference between comedy and death.  It received mediocre reviews and failed to do much at the box office.  For almost a decade, Keaton had functioned autonomously in Hollywood, with complete creative control of his films, first producing a remarkable string of 19 short films, then a series of 10 wildly innovative features, work that by itself has earned him the status of one of the single greatest filmmakers in history.  But after Steamboat Bill, Keaton signed with MGM, the biggest, most powerful studio in town.  In September of 1928, he released The Cameraman, made at the studio, but under his own system.  Within a year, the studio would take over supervision of his features, leading to a series of popular, but highly mediocre films that, combined with a couple disastrous marriages and a bout of alcoholism nearly meant the end of one the the greatest talents Hollywood has ever known.  Keaton survived, eventually kicking alcohol and finding a stable apparently healthy marital relationship, and his career continued in bit parts and TV and writing gigs until his death in the late 1960s.  In the end, he left us with 19 feature films, half of which are the highest example of what a true artist can do with the medium, and half of which are a textbook example of the money-making blandness corporate bureaucracy would prefer the medium to produce.

(That it all happened within 15 years (about the length of Wes Anderson's career) surely says something about art and bureaucracy as well.  The great artistic peaks of the 20th Century all occurred in a remarkably compressed amount of time.  The Beatles and Bob Dylan from 1962-70, Jean-Luc Godard from 1960-67, DW Griffith from 1909-19 and so on.  Keaton's run from 1920-1928 ranks with any of them.)


Over the last few weeks, I've managed to catch all the Buster Keaton sound films thanks to TCM.  Knowing the backstory made me apprehensive, and for the most part my fears were confirmed.  These are simply not very good films.  But I like to think that there are good things to find in just about any movie, and when a filmmaker and performer is as brilliant and gifted as Buster Keaton is it is almost impossible for them to do nothing interesting over the course of a feature film.  So in watching these movies, with low expectations and the understanding that not a single one of them can be considered anything like a masterpiece, the viewing experience changes, or rather, it shifts into what it probably should be all the time, but usually isn't.  Instead of being carried away by the film, either by the artistry of its visual style or the cleverness of its screenplay and story construction, or the emotional implications and philosophical or political ideas it is trying to convey, I find myself instead waiting for the moments of inspiration, the small gestures or expressions or moments of balletic grace that transcend the surrounding mediocrity and where we can catch a glimpsed of the buried genius within.  Watching the late Keaton films is not to be swept away by the fulfillment of a cinematic vision, but instead to be reminded that artistry can be found in the most unlikely places; that though it can be incredibly fragile, it is more indestructible than we think.


The Cameraman - The last true Buster Keaton feature has a bit of an out-sized reputation.  It is not at the level of his greatest films, Sherlock Jr or The General or Steamboat Bill, but it's pretty good nonetheless.  He plays a photographer who tries to become an MGM newsreel photographer to impress a girl.  There are some very good bits: a recurring gag with Keaton breaking an office window is a bit obvious, but nicely built, a pool changing room sequence that, like many of Keaton's best and worst routines, feels more like a record of a historic vaudeville performance than a comic innovation, a rousing climactic gang war in Chinatown, with Keaton (and a monkey!) finding himself perilously close to the action as he attempts to film it.  Most magical of all is a sequence where Keaton finds himself alone on a diamond and he plays an imaginary game of baseball.


Spite Marriage - This was Keaton's last silent film, and it's more or less a whimper.  He plays a sap who idolizes a stage actress who ends up marrying Keaton to spite (get it?) an actor who rejected her.  There's a great scene of Keaton trying to put his passed-out-drunk wife to bed on their wedding night, and the first of what would become a recurring trope in Keaton's MGM films: the destruction of a serious theatrical production by Keaton's cluelessly chaotic behavior.


Free and Easy - Taking that last idea and running with it through early sound era Hollywood makes this my favorite of the Keaton talking pictures.  He plays a slow-witted but well-meaning small town type who accompanies a young lady and her mother to Hollywood, where the girl will attempt to become a star.  She ends up dating Robert Montgomery, and Keaton destroys a number of film projects, most memorably when he's cast in a small part in a Fred Niblo costume picture (his repeated inability to enter a scene without destroying the entire set is a masterpiece of slow-burning slapstick).  Somehow, Keaton and the mother end up with major parts in Montgomery's film, which is apparently a musical, while the girl (played by Anita Page, who was excellent the year before in the Oscar-winning The Broadway Melody, and who would also star with Keaton in Sidewalks of New York) decides she'd rather be a housewife than an actress.  There are a couple of fine comic musical numbers: the first a duet with Keaton and the mother that harkens back to vaudeville, the second a big group production number featuring a slick little dance by Keaton to the film's catchy title song.


Doughboys - Basically a comic version of King Vidor's The Big Parade, except not as funny as the original (which isn't particularly funny).  Keaton plays a rich guy who accidentally joins the army, goes through basic training and gets shipped off to World War I.  During all this, he falls in love with a girl who is not Clara Bow, as impossible as that may sound.  It's about as funny as your average Beetle Bailey strip.  Someone had to invent all the comic tropes we know and hate about army life (the mean sergeant, peeling potatoes, guard duty in the rain), I really doubt this is that ur-Army film, though it does provide a thorough survey of everything you've seen before.  There is a really cool musical sequence with Keaton, Cliff Edwards and a ukelele.


Parlor, Bedroom and Bath - This is a prime example of one of the worst trends in the MGM films, which is the stupidification of the Keaton character.  In his own films, Keaton always played a reasonably intelligent ordinary little guy, generally unlucky with love and machinery, often a fish out of water.  By the end of the film, though, he would have learned to master his environment (a ship or a train or a house, etc) and would win the girl through acts of bravery and physical competence.  In the MGM films, however, Keaton increasingly plays a character (seemingly always named "Elmer" for some reason) for whom a developmental disability is a very real possibility.  It's not that he's an ordinary guy who finds himself out of his comfort zone: he's an incompetent with no discernible skills who manages to survive to the end of the film not through learning to master his surroundings, but through sheer dumb luck.  For example, in this film, Keaton plays a guy who gets hired by rich people to pretend to be a womanizer in order to attract the attention of the older sister of the girl Reginald Denny wants to marry (it's a Taming of the Shrew type scenario).  The twist is that Keaton knows absolutely nothing about women, apparently only discovering their existence some 15 minutes into the film.  This remarkable ignorance leads Denny to hire a giantess to teach Keaton the ways of romance, leading to some occasionally inspired chaos (despite the complete lack of believability of anything any of the characters do) during a series of unmaskings and a wild chase at the film's climax that is the only sequence in the film where Keaton's genius peeks through, despite the horrific material he's given to work with.


Sidewalks of New York - Just like the film above, but instead of rich swells, Keaton stars with a bunch of proto-Dead End kids.  He's a rich guy who tries to start a community center for the inner city youth in order to impress a girl.  But the kids would rather join gangs instead and keep beating Keaton up.  One of the kids gets mixed up with a grown up gangster and there's some cross dressing and eventually a chase in a mansion that's so uninspired you can hardly believe it stars the same man as The High Sign.  The only high point is a boxing match with Keaton and a goon he's hired to throw the fight that double crosses him, but even that looks lame in comparison to Charlie Chaplin's boxing match in the same year's City Lights.  In fact, that should give a good idea of where Keaton and Chaplin were at this point in their careers:  Chaplin making arguably his best film, Keaton his worst.


The Passionate Plumber - With this we have the unlikely pairing of Keaton with comic Jimmy Durante.  The two make an amiable, if totally mismatched duo, but they probably had a lot of fun during the shoots.  Unfortunately, on-screen, they're a mess. As with Parlor, Bedroom and Bath, MGM cast Keaton in a remake of a play that had already been adapted for film, and again the material is completely wrong for him.  He plays a plumber/inventor who gets mixed up in the tedious love lives of the rich, and fights a duel with someone for some reason (he invented a kind of gun or something).  I was wrong before: this has got to be the low point of Keaton's career.  Or maybe not, I'm having trouble remembering anything else about it.


Speak Easily - A slight improvement is this return to the magic of Free and Easy, with Keaton joining a terrible traveling acting troupe (led by Durante) and bankrolling their production on Broadway (to impress a girl, naturally) while under the mistaken impression that he (an oblivious college professor) has inherited a fortune.  The film is pretty lackluster (though Durante gives a much more interesting performance here, he got lost in the European setting of The Passionate Plumber, but we get the full Schnozzola here, and there's a fun sequence of Keaton getting drunk with a scheming actress played by Thelma Todd), at least until the end, where Keaton again works his chaos magic on a stage performance, his unintentional nuttiness driving the audience wild and saving the day.  Again, this is in distinction to the arc of his silent features, when the Keaton character would save the day not by accident, but because he had learned to master the machines and environments that he'd found himself so comically mismatched with at the beginning of the film.  In the silents, he overcomes obstacles through his bravery and ingenuity.  In the MGM films, a bunch of random stuff happens and sometimes it's funny.


What!  No Beer? - Surely one of the all-time greatest film titles deserves a better movie than this.  Under the mistaken impression that Prohibition has been lifted, Keaton and Durante go into the beer-brewing business, inadvertently underselling the local bootleggers and inspiring a gang war.  Again, the Keaton character is pretty dumb, his interactions with the women in the film are ridiculously juvenile (Keaton was 38 years old at this point, did the studio really expect us to take him as so seriously, ignorantly virginal?).  The best visual sequence in the film is an homage to/rip-off of the famous boulder chase scene in Seven Chances, this time with Keaton fleeing a bunch of beer barrels.  A comparison of the two would show the obvious superiority of the silent version, as it not only exists on a bigger scale (dozens and dozens of boulders on a massive hillside vs. a handful of barrels quickly rolling down a couple city blocks) but lasts longer and is filmed so as to maximize the visceral impact of the chase (whereas the beer barrel sequence is filmed mostly in long shot, keeping us at a respectable distance from the danger).  Still, at least Keaton gets a suitable finale in this film, as he manages to come up with a brilliant plan to save his crew from a police raid on their brewery by getting the entire town drunk on free beer.  Despite its shortcomings, this does manage to be the second-best talking film of Keaton's MGM career.

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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2011, 09:37:12 AM »
In the early 90s there was a Buster Keaton Marathon on cable that played every silent short and feature he ever made. It included the documentary Buster Keaton: A Hard Act to Follow. All of this makes the thought of a Buster Keaton sound movies marathon pretty punishing. Thanks for going through those. Looks like you were trying to be positive, but your reviews confirmed that while the films aren't completely terrible, it's an uphill battle.

I am glad you finally got to The Cameraman. It's not as good as his masterpieces, but it's as good as most Chaplin.

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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2011, 09:59:07 AM »
I need to revisit The Cameraman.  At the time I scored it extremely high but now I feel I probably overrated it.

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Re: Director's Best: Buster Keaton
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2011, 10:07:57 AM »
What!  No Beer? - Surely one of the all-time greatest film titles deserves a better movie than this.

It's a shame about most of these. The Cameraman stands with the rest of his legacy though.